Task 12 Conversations In Spain (discussion)
Nama Anggota kelompok :
1. Gihon Nakata Silaen (F1A021018)
2. Sivi Hersiana (F1A021038)
3. Aisa Juniarti (F1A021008)
4. Mutiara Pratiwi (F1A021014)
5. Mazdalifah Khairat Nst (F1A021036)
6. Amirah Zahra (F1A021020)
7. Mayang Lestari (F1A021026)
8. Rizki Ikhwan (F1A021070)
Hello guys ...
BalasHapusHello sis ...
Hapushalo selamat malam
Hapushaiiii
BalasHapusIn your opinion, what difficulties do students experience in Spain as well as in your country?
BalasHapusPronunciation and way of speaking because in Indonesia the way of speaking, meaning and writing is different so it is often difficult to understand.
HapusYes, all right. I am agree with you Aisa. what about other friends opinions?
HapusWell, the same difficulty is experienced by students in Indonesia who are also learning a new language, especially English. In academies or schools, more emphasized on basic grammar than speaking. So, instead of feeling that learning a foreign language is something fun, it makes learning a foreign language is a burden. So that, many find it difficult to communicate directly in English, because they are busy with sentence structure compared to conveying students' intentions using English.
HapusYes, I think some of the difficulties experienced by students in Spain are almost the same as students in my country, starting from problems speaking or pronouncing sentences in English and then also being embarrassed at the beginning when they want to say sentences in English.
HapusThis means that it can be concluded that the problems or difficulties in speaking English experienced by several countries are the same. namely Pronunciation, , Lack of knowledge about the use of grammar and how to speak . the way of speaking, meaning and writing is different so it is often difficult to understand.
HapusOkey ...we continue with question number 2.
BalasHapusThe School Director says that English is a requirement for practically any job in Spain. Is this true in your
country? If so, how long has this been the case?
In my opinion, most of the work in Indonesia does not use English, such as farmers and fishermen
HapusSo, in my opinion: mostly, yes. Especially for jobs that are present today, have English skills is very necessary because of the need to connect with the outside world in many aspects of work. However, English is not widely spoken and the number of Indonesians who can speak English is still very low. This means that the use of English in Indonesia is still limited to certain events and circles, and tends to be only for legality.
HapusIn my country, English is sometimes a requirement in several jobs in Indonesia such as journalists, tourism, multinational companies, translators, public relations and many more, but there are also some jobs in Indonesia that do not really require English as a guide for a job. Such as farmers, fishermen, and others. They rely more on skills than the ability to speak English. Only some jobs require skills in English in my country Indonesia. It has been a long time since it has been applied in several job requirements in Indonesia to be able to speak English
HapusI don't think so, many jobs in Indonesia do not require English language skills.
Hapuswow... awesome answer guys...i agree with all of you
HapusWhy Rizki?
HapusIn Indonesia, there are several companies that emphasize English for job application requirements, but other companies do not guide an employee to speak English.
HapusOkayy
BalasHapuswe continue with question number 3.
BalasHapusDo you agree with Nuria when she says that the key to fluency is thinking in English? If so, what can
students do to help themselves develop the habit of thinking in English?
Yes, I agree with Nuria. In my opinion, although nowadays mastery of English is commonplace among Indonesian people, in reality not everyone can master this foreign language easily. Many need to take certain courses or training to improve their English language skills. In fact, there are actually many simpler but effective ways to improve the ability of English-speaking students that can be taken, including the practice of speaking English, reading English text, writing English subtitles, watching English films with Indonesian subtitles and many more.
HapusBy thinking in English first, you won't have to translate—which will help you become more fluent in English. When you think in English (without translating), this also helps you internalize the language. When you internalize information, it means you learn it so well that you no longer need to think about it.
HapusIn my opinion. No, I don't agree that making mistakes will improve English because I think the way to improve English is to like the language first. And if I make mistakes when speaking English I will be shy and nervous especially in public
HapusI don't agree with the statement made by nuria. In my opinion, everyone has a different learning style, some are visual, auditory, kinesthetic and so on. So the key to being fluent in English cannot be the same for other people.
Hapus@Sivi Hersiana In my opinion, in that way, it makes it difficult for our ability to speak English to be difficult to develop, learning from mistakes is one way to improve our language skills To be better.
HapusWell, I agree. As for the way we can think in English, simply, we can achieve it by often to interacting with English itself, until we become familiar with it and when we find a problem that has been discussed in English language during our learning, we will directly connected to the discussion and the sentence that used in English. At that time, we are thinking in English.
Hapuswe continue with question number 4.
BalasHapusTo what extent do you agree with Giulio when he says that making mistakes is a way to improve your
English? How do you feel if you make mistakes when you are speaking English?
In my opinion, Making mistakes is actually the most important thing in the process of learning English. You can imagine what if we don't dare to try and are afraid to make mistakes. In fact, they never learn.
HapusMaking mistakes is actually the most important thing in the learning process. You can imagine what if we don't dare to try and make mistakes. what about you sivi?
I agree with Giulio's statement, with a feeling of shame when we make a mistake, of course we will try to correct what has made the mistake happen so that it doesn't happen again.
HapusYes, what I can do is to get used to watching something that makes English improve, always asking about the correct English vocabulary, socializing with many people.about English and spend time learning English
HapusSo, I agree with giulio
HapusMaking mistakes is a natural part of learning English and they are only bad if you allow them to be – and if you don't learn by them. It doesn't matter if your vocabulary is limited. It doesn't matter if your pronunciation isn't flawless. And it certainly doesn't matter if your grammar isn't perfect.
HapusMistakes helps us understand that our biggest enemy can be ourselves. We learn to reflect on our own mistakes. By overcoming our shortcomings, we become stronger people as we come to know our own strengths and weaknesses. It wouldn't be as easy for us to understand ourselves without the mistakes we have made.
HapusWell, I totally agree with Giulio's statement. Because never being corrected or never feel wrong or made a mistake, is also a fatal thing in learning. It could be, we are stuck on the wrong thing and far from the right thing. There is no opportunity to improve so that our level of ability does not increase. Therefore, I state that I strongly agree with Giulio's statement.
BalasHapusYeah mazda
Hapusmeans you all agree with giulio opinion.
BalasHapusit's good opinion guys
BalasHapusThen let's talk about question number 5...Do you agree with Beatriz when she says that you have to ‘jump’ (get over) the embarrassment you
feel when you are speaking English? If so, what is the best way to do this?
My opinion is neutral. Because everyone has different characteristics and habits. There are people who, if they can overcome their shame and there are also those who are already there, but their shame does not go away. so it depends on each individual
Hapusi agree with mutiara
HapusIt's fantastis opinion mutiaraa...we continue with question number 6.
BalasHapusThe film consisted of 3 conversations (the director, the learner, the teacher). Why do you think the
film makers interviewed people in these roles?
i think To know how the point of view of each role involved in learning so that there is no bias. And each answer from each role has a different experience and learning.
HapusYes, I agree with Aisa's opinion, because the three of them are related and related, and of course they have different roles and experiences too
HapusI do think so Aisa...
HapusWhat other questions do you think the film should have asked?
BalasHapusIn my opinion, An interesting question might be: How do they feel while learning a foreign language, including learning English? Because they are already required in learning English from the start.
Hapusyes i think so too sivi
HapusOkey next, number 8
BalasHapusWhat did you find most interesting or surprising about the video?
I think, That Spain is required to learn English at the age of 6 years, it is quite surprising information.
Hapusi think , agree with mutiara
HapusNext, discuss of activity 8, Is learning English compulsory in schools in your country?
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HapusYes it is, because the ability to speak English is important for competitiveness. With good English skills, good competitiveness, which is useful for our country.
Hapusi agree with amirah
HapusI agree with amirah
HapusOkey next question guys . How important is English for job-seekers in your country?
BalasHapusCurrently, the ability to speak English is a plus in the world of work. In Indonesia itself, many people are needed who have good English skills. mastering English can communicate with many people from various countries because English is an international language. Having English language skills can also increase opportunities for career development, increase confidence during presentations, chat with foreigners and others, and also provide greater job opportunities so that it can make business trips easier.
HapusI agree with aisa
HapusYeah aisa, I think so too
HapusGood opinion guys..next question.
BalasHapusWhat aspects of learning English are difficult for students in your country?
I think Diverse Pronunciation and Dialect of Languages, Explosive English Vocabulary, and Lack of knowledge of grammar usage.
Hapusyes mutiara, i think so
Hapusnext question activity 8 no 4, How does the culture or background of people in your country affect their language learning?
BalasHapuslanguage doesn't always affect
Hapusculture. But there are times when culture influences language. Even in everyday actions, most
Culture comes before language. For example, in Acehnese society, tools that
used to plow fields is called langlai. That thing (negligently) didn't exist again
name, but after the object is created and becomes a human habit of plowing the fields
with the object, then a name (language) appears to mention it
that thing.
Yeah that's right sivi
Hapusnice answer sivi anda i agree
HapusThe last question guys. What tips and advice do you have for other learners of English?
BalasHapusKeep going even though the others underestimate you at the first time. It's Okay, it is the part of the process.
HapusIn my opinion, tips and suggestions for students to learn English easily are Frequently Listening to English Songs, Often Watching English Movies, Reading English Books, Recording New Vocabulary, Trying to Write in English, Practice English, Take English Courses, Change Language in Gadgets with English, Take advantage of the Internet and YouTube to learn English and much more
Hapusokay.. thanks for your opinion, friends...that's enough for our discussion this time....
BalasHapusSee you guys ...
see you
Hapus